On to today's agenda - all things Tips! Website – http://www.deschutesangler.com This overall length lends itself well to distance casts and touch-and-go style casting (single spey, snake roll, etc). When I first started Skagit casting, a 3 to 1 ratio was pretty common, however I now feel that it is far too long to be practical for most anglers and negates many of the benefits of Skagit casting. The simple answer is to more precisely control the depth and sink rate of your tip/fly. You can attach this piece of leader material to the exposed monofilament tip of the Poly/Versi a couple of different ways. Facebook * Instagram. This is a multi-part series of posts where we are taking a close (but simplified) look at the components of modern spey setups with the intention of cutting through the sea of confusion that can serve as a barrier to entry into the world of spey casting. Back in the day, there were few pre-packaged skagit tips available. That being said, they really are a pretty great solution to the classic dilemma of an angler's preferred sink-rate "T" tip not being an ideal match in terms of grain weight for their rod of choice. There are two primary rating systems used to identify sink rate - "T" and "Sink". Available configurations are 10' Float, 7.5' Float/2.5' T, 5' Float/5' T, 2.5' Float/7.5' T, 10' T, and 12.5' T. So why in the world would anyone want all of these options? For Swinging; Adjust leader lengths and diameters according to flies used. In total, the head and leader length should be around 25-32 feet in length. FLO tips seamlessly combine intermediate and T material to create a smoother transition from the skagit head. It is fairly obvious why you need to have a shooting head and running line, however there often tends to be some confusion as to whether or not a tip is absolutely necessary. Compared to skagit tips, Poly/Versileaders make a much more delicate presentation on the water. For example: If you wish to select a head for a 13’0” 7 wt rod, you could select a Scandi head length of either 33 or 36 feet, and either of these head lengths would be available in weights of 450, 475 or 500 grains. Really, any of the above options will work well, but hopefully you'll be able to walk into the fly shop with a little better understanding of the various options and what the designers intentions were in bringing each of them to market. Polyleaders are Airflo's offering, and Versileaders are the equivalent product from Rio. Welcome to the spey zone where you can find information on switch rod & spey casting setup product information, spey fishing articles and more. As the name suggests, skagit tips are used in conjunction with skagit heads. Scandi knives are legendary so it only makes sense a legendary knife company, TOPS, would produce the world’s best Scandi Knives. Does anyone really need all of these options? Both Skagit and Scandi lines are shooting head systems comprised of a head, running line, and tip. Specifically, the T rating identifies how many grains per foot the tip weighs, which directly relates to how fast the tip will sink. They are available in T-7, T-10, T-14, and T-18, in both 10' and 12' lengths and come factory looped on both ends. If water temperature is in the 30s or 40s and/or the river only has a few feet of visibility, the Skagit head is the preferred head to use with a sink tip and a weighted fly. The term PolyLeader was first used by the Airflo Company of UK, to describe a new leader system they had developed to enhance leader performance. Wow, I really cannot believe I wrote so much on what used to be such a mundane topic as skagit tips. A trip to your local fly shop will present you with a full menu of tip options - we've got MOWS, FLOS, T-this, T-that, Type-this, Type-that, Custom Cuts, Commandos, and the list goes on! The Sea Trout/Steelhead Poly comes only in an 8' length and is available in the same densities. Therefore a heaver T-rating physically weights more than a lighter T-rating. Although Poly/Versileaders are called "leaders", you will still need to add on several feet of leader material to the front end of the Poly/Versileader before tying on your fly. Thus, OPST has allowed us to match the appropriate grain weight for whatever rod we have, while still being able to have the sink rate of our choosing. So there is a difference between Underhand Casting and Modern Scandinavian Casting. For Summer steelheading 10lb is my go-to, but will sometimes size up to 12lb. Where scandi heads do poorly (compared to Skagit) are in wind or with heavy flies/tips. Thus, lower line weight rods might struggle casting higher "T-" tips. I have snagged and subsequently recovered some pretty impressive logs (read: trees) from swift currents using this stuff. Both styles are designed to do two very different jobs for the Spey angler. Fly deliver system, rigged and ready. If you need to get down deeper than the fast sinking Poly allows, you would be better off switching over to a Skagit head and tips. For most fishing scenarios, 2-4 feet of leader material is sufficient. As their names imply, these are leader systems that vary in material composition, length (from 6 to 15 feet), and sink rates (from floating to 7 inches per second or “ips”). 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The slightly longer head has a few more grains to make up for the absence of a Versileader. For spey rods 12' or shorter, I would recommend Poly/Versis in the 5-8' range, for spey rods 12-13'6", I would go with 10 footers, and rods 13'6" and up, go with 14 footers. Most tips nowadays come out of the package ready to go with welded loops on both ends. In the past few years, Skagit tip design has progressed substantially and there now are quite a few different types of skagit tips on the market. The RIO Scandi head is a very easy casting Scandi style shooting head, built on RIO’s ultra-low stretch ConnectCore for the utmost in casting control and sensitivity. The sink rate of T-10 and T-11 are virtually identical, however different manufacturers use different T designations. To get technical for a moment, "Sink" type tips can be manufactured to have the same sink rates in different grain weights. If water temperature is over 50 degrees and the water has good clarity, a Scandi Head is the preferred head of choice for steelhead anglers. This is done to create a straighter connection between angler and fly by reducing tip sag during the swing. However, Skagit Heads excel at the job of casting heavy tips and heavy flies. Whether I am casting a Skagit or a Scandi setup, I rarely ever do anything fancier for my leader than just using a 2-4 foot flat section of monofilament leader material. Because of this mass, Skagit tips do a great job at turning over large flies. "Winter Nymp. But the problem is that T-14 usually casts like garbage on such a light spey rod. That being said, I only use good ol' fashioned Maxima. In Finland they are called Puukko but are of the basic knife design we and others call Scandi. Fast forward to modern day Skagit casting, I rarely ever cast any tips longer than 12' and mostly stick to 10' tips. So what length tip is appropriate for you? In this example, the 132 grain Sink 5/6 tip would be better for a lighter weight rod, while the 168 grain Sink 5/6 tip will pair better with a heavier weight rod. For example, you may see "Type 3", which is the same as Sink 3 or S3. The length Poly/Versileader to choose depends on rod length as well as casting style/preference. They were used as a general cutting tool. That being said, here is my two cents on the subject. Rio Skagit MOW Tips - Rio MOW tips are dual density skagit tips which seamlessly integrate varying lengths of level floating line with corresponding lengths of level T. They are available in T-8, T-11, T-14, and T-17, in 10' and 12.5' lengths (12.5' only available in full sinking), and are factory looped on both ends. No need to over think it, just loop one onto your scandi head and go fishing! For example, OPST offers a Sink 5/6 tip in both 132 grains and 168 grains. I have spent some time with these tips and have been impressed. Knowing exactly which sink tip to choose for the type of water you are fishing will take some trial and error. Each 3D MOW tip is 10ft long, with 3ft of the first and second sinking sections, and 4 feet of the fastest sinking section. Example: a 13 foot Spey rod should have a Scandi Head that is roughly 32-33 feet in length and the leader should be 19-20 feet in length. Airflo produces tips in T-7, T-10, T-14, and T-18, whereas Rio produces tips in T-8, T-11, T-14, and T-17. Commando tips are dual density, with the front half being a heavier sink rate than the back half (for example, the Riffle tip is rated Type 2/3, where the back half of the tip is Type 2 sink rate and the front half is Type 3). Klaus is the main rod designer for single and two handed rods for Loop. To get a longer, finer leader, I just keep adding lighter tippet material to the end. As a rule, your Skagit head will be 8-10 feet shorter than the Scandi head for the same rod and will weigh 80-100 grains more than the Scandi line for the same rod. The Salmon/Steelhead version comes in 5', 10' and 14' lengths and are available in seven different densities - Floating, Hover, Intermediate, Slow Sinking, Fast Sinking, Super Fast Sinking, and Extra Super Fast Sinking. Performance Features: This is the Scandi head line for all Spey rods. Leaders wear down after extended periods of use and become ineffectively short, thick, and stubby. Again, personal preference. They pretty much all do the same thing, but offer unique casting characteristics and the ability to more precisely dial in your intended sink rate for the water you are fishing. Floating tips, well, they float. Airflo Spey lines have been developed with some of the best casters and anglers from around the world, producing 100% PVC free fly lines that last well and cast even better! Switch Rod Video Channel. Whatever you want to call them, these nylon core coated and tapered leaders are commonly used with Scandi lines to both lengthen the head and achieve some depth. All sink rates are available in 8', 10', 12', and 15' lengths. Scandi heads are longer than Skagit heads, typically 30 to 40 feet in length. That being said, "T" is a far more popular type of tip in the world of Skagit, so be prepared to mostly speak about skagit tips in terms of T-. My current favorite skagit setup consists of a 20' head, a 10' tip, and a 12'6" rod, resulting in a ratio of 2.4-to-1. Skagit tips are available in a wide variety of sink rates, from floating to very fast sinking. I should quickly acknowledge that it is possible to cast some spey heads (mostly referring to Scandi here) without a tip, however ease of casting and line turnover will be greatly increased with the appropriate tip. Out of the package, Poly/Versileaders come with a factory welded loop on the butt end and a short section of exposed monofilament core (usually about 6 inches) on the front end. This is especially relevant for lighter weight spey rods and "trout" spey rods which often struggle to cast "T" tips. Pros and Cons of Scandi Heads. My preferred method, however, is to tie a permanent standing loop in the tip end of the Poly/Versileader and attach my leader material to this loop via a loop-to-loop connection. Thus you will need to either tie a standing loop on one end or use a nail knot to attach your leader. This week’s Spey tip is written by Amy Hazel, Guide, Spey Guru and owner of Deschutes Anglers. The "S" or "Sink" refers to the fact that the tip is a sinking density. The Scandi knife’s design and usage came from Scandinavian countries. Let's try to make sense of this all. OPST also has 7.5' and 5' tips available which pair well with shorter spey/switch rods as well as single hand rods. SPEY ZONE- Switch Rod Spey Rod Line & Leader Configurations . Fly shops often carry bulk spools of level T which they can cut to any length specified. Airflo Scandi Long Shooting Head Fly Line JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. https://uwotf.com/blog/choosing-the-right-length-of-spey-lines-and-leaders Remember that "T-" refers to the grains per foot of a tip. Pros: Easy, graceful casting feel Email – [email protected] To put it simply for now, the tip is an integral part of the spey line, and to try to cast without one would be to try and cast with only two thirds of your line. No need to add any tippet or further leader material at this point, just go ahead and tie on your fly...and go fishing. My formula is 30,25 20,15,12,10,8. The "Sink" system is pretty straight forward. My tapered leaders are based on a simple formula from Col. Joseph Bates's book "Atlantic Salmon Flies and Fishing." Most Skagit leaders are not tapered and instead are a single piece of spooled monofilament. Cons: So many options, hard to know which tip to use when (leads to over-thinking rather than fishing), more expensive than regular level-t. OPST Commando Tips - These may be the most complicated of all skagit tips currently available. Commando tips are 12' long and come looped on both ends with identification labels. Cons: More difficult line pickup (line pickup refers to lifting the line out of the water during the casting stroke) compared to newer tip designs, less control over fly depth compared to newer designs. The primary benefit of this is that it preserves your Poly/Versileader by allowing you to change your leader material as frequently as you want without cutting/shortening the pricey Poly/Versileader. A color coded sleeve is welded on to the rear end of the tip to identify the weight, and printed with all the relevant info. The answer to this depends on what length rod you have, what length skagit head you are using, and of course, personal preference. The two predominant modern spey line setups are Skagit and Scandi. According to Ritz, suppleness in leader material is only necessary at the tippet, where, in his opinion, 20 inches is the ideal length. Because these heads easily attach to the running line via a loop-to-loop connection, you only need one reel with running line to which you will attach the appropriate shooting head for the conditions. If you want your fly deep in the water column, you will want a heavier tip. A leader must retain just the right amount of energy during the cast to place the fly perfectly on target. Sorry Scandinavia. Scandi Heads: These are primarily designed to fish floating leaders and unweighted traditional hair-wing flies or skaters. @houdyg, Sending so much love and healing to our amazing fr, "I want fly fishing to feel like the grocery store, TUESDAY TIP – Winter Fishing Week #8. Here are the tips that I usually find to cast well for various spey rod weights: The grain weight of "Sink" type tips does not necessarily increase with the sink rate (ie. Example: a 13 foot Spey rod should have a Skagit head that is roughly 20-25 feet in length and the leader should be 3-6 feet in length. If you are fishing slow moving shallow water you will want a lighter tip. a Sink 3 tip can weigh the same as a Sink 7 tip). One more super important thing about these tips...they are labeled! Commando tips are offered in three sink rates - riffle, run, and bucket. Sometimes I fished the 10′ Intermediate RIO Scandi VersiLeader and others just a 9′ 2X or 3X RIO Trout Powerflex Plus. There certainly is some merit to this, but realistically, a simple untapered piece of leader material works well enough that I have rarely ever bothered doing anything else. The butt is 2.5 feet long and is made of thicker intermediate line which then transitions into 7.5 feet or 9.5 feet (depending on  whether it is a 10' or 12 foot long tip) of level T. The benefits of this dual density design are easier line pickup, improved turnover/loop shape, and a straighter connection to the fly in the water (due to less sagging of tip during the swing). Other sub-parts of a leader are: Shock Butt, Shock Tippets and Wire Tippets. Floating Scandi line perfectly suited for throwing smaller salmon steelhead flies. Which sink rate tip you choose should depend first and foremost on the river conditions and how deep in the water column you want your fly. They are directional, meaning that they have a butt end and a front end. Join the Scandi Standard Graduate Program 2021 Scandi Standard is, together with our local well-known brands, looking for new ambitious graduates to join our expanding, innovative and multi-cultural company. Usually, you’ll find leaders in lengths of 7.5-ft, 9-ft, or 12-ft for anglers who fish in varying conditions with 9-ft as the standard. "Personal preference" encompasses things such as your casting stroke, height, how deep you are typically wading, and so forth. Fine, I'll dive a little deeper down this rabbit hole - for winter steelhead I typically recommend a tip assortment of T-7, T-10, and T-14. I have been tying leaders for a couple years now. I then tie a perfection or surgeon's loop in the leader material and attach it to the Poly/Versi via a loop-to-loop connection. These shooting heads attach to a running line/shooting line which is a thin line that shoots out easily through your guides as it follows the head out across the water. As a basic summer steelheading assortment, I would recommend picking up the Floating, Intermediate, and Fast Sinking Polyleaders. For example, lets say that you want your fly to get down quickly, but you don't want to achieve too much overall depth throughout the swing, this would be a good time to use the 7.5'Float/2.5' T-14 MOW tip. This is still a common practice, and you will see some tip options from various manufacturers labeled as "Custom Cut" tips. This makes things super easy. KEY Scandi Shooting Head fly line Specifications: This is a floating Shooting Head: ranging from 28 ft at 180 gr up to 40 ft at 640 gr. Scientific Anglers Third Coast Textured Spey Tips - The SA Third Coast tips are pretty unique in that they are both tapered and textured. Intermediate tips sink at a rate of approximately 1-2 ips. Cons: More expensive than level T, textured coating can slightly diminish line stick and subsequent rod load. Pros: Get better casting performance out of any weight rod due to ability to appropriately match grain weight of tip to grain window of rod, a great tip option for lighter weight spey and switch rods, looped and labeled. Pros: So many options, ability to dial in the exact sink rate/depth that you desire, color coded and labeled for easy identification, pre-looped on both ends, better line pickup and turnover compared to regular level-T tips. One more disclaimer, there are some types of tips on the market that do not neatly fall into either of the above categories, however we'll just say that these are for "niche" applications and not paramount to the understanding of basic Skagit and Scandi line setups. Airflo Polyleaders - Airflo makes a ton of different Polyleaders, however the two that are most relevant for spey applications are the Salmon/Steelhead Polyleader and the Sea Trout/Steelhead Polyleader. However, an important distinction to make is that spey is a style of casting, not necessarily a type of rod. Here are some common "T" ratings and their associated sink rates: You will notice that there are some overlaps in the above "T" ratings, such as T-10 and T-11. Ultimately, when swinging flies, leader shyness is not as much of a concern, so I tend towards using heavier test leader material. Skagit tips are available in a variety of sink rates as well as floating. Pros: Improved line pickup, improved turnover, looped on both ends, labeled, more consistent swing. A secondary consideration in tip selection is rod weight. Klaus tells his story about growing up in Denmark and how his connection with Loop came to be. Put another way, there are a lot of freaking skagit tips to choose from nowadays. I still use “Poly Leaders” (Airflo) as the generic term, but some use “Versi-leader” (Rio) or “Sonar Leader” (SA) or “Siking Leaders”. RIO's Scandi Versileaders are designed for the lighter weight Scandi heads and Spey lines, and are particularly suitable for heads up to 8wt in size. For these reasons, Poly/Versileaders are best suited for summer steelheading. var sb_instagram_js_options = {"font_method":"svg","placeholder":"https:\/\/uwotf.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/instagram-feed\/img\/placeholder.png","resized_url":"https:\/\/uwotf.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sb-instagram-feed-images\/"}; Choosing the Right Length of Spey Lines and Leaders, WEEKLY FEATURED FLY GIRL – This week we are celebr, How do you organize your fly tying tools? Scandi heads are tapered so that they are fat in the back tapering down to a fine tip where the line attaches to the leader. Skagit heads have very little taper – they are more or less one fat diameter from back to front and usually 20-25 feet in length. Nowadays, I stick to approximately a 2.5-to-1 ratio. Some variations did fool a few trout but this has been my goto 3 or 4 weight rig. Just a few years ago this section would have been very short, as the only type of Skagit tip available was level T, cut to the casters preferred length. As far as the leader goes, 2-4 feet of untapered leader material is all you need. In the "T" rating system, the T stands for tungsten, which is used in the line coating to make the tip sink. "Scandi" style heads feature long, fine front tapers that unroll with ease, remain stable and smooth throughout the casting stroke and are very easy, and pleasant to cast. Rules of thumb rarely apply in the world of spey casting, however, if you are just starting out, try to fall somewhere around 2.5-to-1 for your head+tip to rod ratio. Of course, feel free to reach out with any questions you have. Tie a perfection or surgeons loop into the leader, loop-to-loop that sucker onto your tip, and go fishing. The updated Airflo Scandi Compact has a longer head length to allow users to form a deeper ‘D’ or ‘V’ Loop and cast farther than ever before. With the 30 being the longest length and each increment being a little shorter than the previous. Casting a Scandi Head is like driving a convertible sports car – they are light and maneuverable, and they are meant to be used for summer steelhead fishing when floating lines and unweighted flies are most effective. For head length, try a head that's 2.5X rod length … The typical length of a Skagit tip is 8' to 15', with most skagit casters nowadays opting for tips in the 10-12' range. When most people think of spey, they instantly think of two handed rods. These components are geared toward specialty fishing situations like toothy fresh and saltwater critters. Skagit casters custom cut their tips to the length of their preference. Not that a shorter head is a bad thing. More often than not, you’ll find your leader … They are available in a variety of sink rates and come in lengths from 5' to 14'. For most anglers getting started in Spey casting, it is a good idea to buy both a Scandi head and a Skagit head to prepare you for fishing in all conditions. Cons: More expensive than level T, cannot use with F.I.S.T heads or other sinking skagit heads (due to intermediate butt section). The Larger and Heavier the flies require a heavier diameter, 15#, with shorter lengths 28” to 36” which allows for turnover. Skagit Heads: These are primarily designed to fish sink tips and weighted flies. For example, an angler with a 6 weight spey rod might really want to use a T-14 tip in a given run to get his/her fly down as deep as possible. But I try to keep the knots in this rig to a minimum. A spey cast is deemed a spey cast when the fly line is cast under the rod tip on the back cast (as opposed to over the rod tip in a traditional fly cast), AND is allowed to anchor onto the surface of the water (near or slightly in front of the angler) before makin… This ratio looks at "head length + tip length" to "rod length". Thanks for letting me ramble on. My leaders are 1.5-2 times rod length. So yes, you must have a tip. As far as pound test goes, 15 lb Maxima Ultragreen is my go-to for winter steelheading, however I'll sometimes drop down to 12lb if I feel like it is more appropriate given conditions and fly choice. Below I'll identify and discuss some of the more popular skagit tips currently available. I would recommend reading Part 1 before jumping into today's post if you haven't already. The first method is to tie on the leader material much like how you typically add tippet to a leader, using either a blood knot or surgeon's knot. Leaders used with Skagit lines are often fairly short, no more than 5', more often 3'. Pros: Ease of line pickup due to textured coating, better turnover compared to level tips, looped front and rear. What kind of leader material is best? ... ULS 3D+ lines are a series of shooting heads that are made to only add a normal tapered leader of fluorocarbon or nylon. Cons: More expensive than level T, doesn't have quite the same casting feeling as "T" tips when used with full size spey rods - not necessarily a con, but they are different. They come in a pre-determined (usually 10' or 12') length with loops welded on both ends, totally ready to attach to your head and go fishing. Skagit tips have a fair amount of physical mass to them and work in conjunction with the Skagit head to load the rod during the casting stroke. By "pre-packaged" I mean that the tips are ready to go out of the package. To create the standing loop in the Poly/Versileader I tie a perfection loop and add a drop of Loon UV Knot Sense for added security. You can use polytips but they reduce the versatility of the leader sliding in the water surface. So if the line still feels light, try a heavier poly. Rio Spey Versileaders - Rio's Spey Versileaders are available in 6' and 10' lengths and come in six different densities - Float, 1.5 ips, 3 ips, 4 ips, 5 ips, and 7 ips. ULS is an abbreviation for Ultra Light Scandi, which means very light weight fly fishing tackle. Or the 7 1/2′ 3X extended with tippet. These are sold in long lengths with the intention of the caster cutting multiple tips to their preferred sizes. There are many other line designs on the market to fit different niches – but the Scandi and Skagit will do nearly everything that a Spey angler would want to do while fishing with a two-handed rod. Pros: Cheapest, simple, customizable length,  still pretty much the standard in skagit tips. No more homemade tinkering required. They also pair great with the Airflo Rage head. High tenacity nylon core leaders, coated with a super low modulus polymer mixture with different density options. Why in the world I thought I needed 18' skagit tips is beyond me, and they sure were a pain to cast. Happy New Year and thanks for tuning back in for the second edition of Demystifying Spey. Last Weeks Recap – The most commonly used types of Spey lines are shooting heads. To give you even more options, MOW tips are also available with Intermediate (rather than floating) configurations via the Rio Skagit iMOW Tips. They are available in Floating, Intermediate/Sink 2, Sink 2/4, Sink 3/5, and Sink 7. Skagit and Scandi heads are pretty specific as far as which type of tip works best for them. Unlike skagit tips, Poly/Versileaders do not add too much meaningful grain weight to the head, but nonetheless function as an integral part of the line system. 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